'getting chosen' is inaccurate because Eric tricked Mr Mackey into the 'choice'. Leaving out the memorial service leaves out a scene marker. Adding that Eric takes it to the extreme gives knowledge to the untrained reader that Eric does this in other episodes. (replaced killed with murdered and changed school announcer to morning announcements reader). He criticizes the school then focuses on the class president Wendy testaburger. This grabs Butters attention and throughout the episode he gets drawn further into cartman's machinations. Eric names Wendy a communist and continues the surge against her credibility.
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Mackey asks for a replacement. Eric Cartman pulls a dirty trick on his best competitor, casey miller, and writing gets the job of announcer. As usual, Eric takes the job to the extreme and creates political commentary-themed talk show, dubbed ec show, to televisions in every classroom. "school announcer" is vague, and introducing this character as the one who performs the morning announcements. This version also doesn't explain how he was killed. "During the memorial service,. Eric Cartman pulls a dirty trick on his best competitor, casey miller, and gets the job of announcer" can easily be described as "Cartman is chosen as his replacement". It's not streamlined when it's pointed out where cartman was when he learns about his new opportunity, and not including the "at the memorial service" isn't going to hinder the reader from learning that Cartman was chosen as the replacement. "As usual, Eric takes the job to the extreme" doesn't work either because a potential reader who is not familiar with the show does not have any frame of reference about Cartman's "usual" behavior. Leave gordon's name hospital in because it's his last episode.
Alatari ( talk ) 06:51, 14 november 2009 (UTC) i added an incarnation of the plot like it was earlier. The newer version is inaccurate and drops details. Alatari ( talk ) 07:12, 14 november 2009 (UTC) First off; when you asked why i didn't ask for "permission" when I made this this edit, i can only say that I was decreasing the plot summary to fewer than 500 words (per mos:TV ). Doing this doesn't require "permission and technically, no edit on wikipedia requires "permission". When I suggested discussing your edit, i was in yardage no way insinuating that such an edit required "permission but felt that it was problematic compared to the previous version which adhered fairly well to plot guidelines. I've done a bunch of plot summaries and usually include an explanatory discussion about such an edit if I'm doing a major re-write, rather than just chipping away at material that's already in place. But I'll definitely try to always include a discussion from now. . so let's discuss this re-write, which was described as more "streamlined gordon Stoltski is killed whiled performing his duties as school announcer. During the memorial service,.
I would also recommend we consider whether or not to use m, which relies on user submissions and is horribly unreliable at times. It might be appropriate to use in these circumstances. It just depends on whether or not one thinks that proposal this is a suitable source to use to state that the episode is discrediting avatar as an unoriginal film. sosaysChappy (talk) 22:31, 14 november 2009 (UTC) Casey miller edit The character Casey miller in this episode is a parody of Casey kasem and his radio career. Just thought I'd point that out. Pokehomsar ( talk ) 23:11, 12 november 2009 (UTC) Clockwork Orange edit "The ol' in 'n out" is a fairly old and common phrase, and its usage in recent times shredder may certainly be attributed to a clockwork Orange. But since it's so common now, i think some kind of verification is needed if the article is going to claim that it's usage in the episode is a direct reference to the film. I would definitely think that more people would associate the phrase with sex before they would with the movie. sosaysChappy (talk) 08:09, 13 november 2009 (UTC) Pretty sure the term was in usage to refer to coitus before Clockwork Orange.
But the focus of the episode has nothing to do with the freaking movie dances with Wolves but instead is referring completely to avatar. Linking Smurfs or Dancing With Wolves with avatar is a very common criticism/joke of the movie on quite a few fan sites. Why the hell else would this south Park bring up Dances With Wolves with blue characters if it wasn't a direct dig at avatar? There are a lot more common (and humorous) targets out there than just referring to Smurfs and a two decade old movie! Just because sites that follow south Park closely but not the 'movie fan' community didn't get the joke and somehow thought that Dances with Wolves by itself fit into this storyline doesn't mean that they somehow know the reason behind the reference. Obviously they do not and I provided references (which were removed!) to back up my point. nick catalano contrib talk 06:30, 14 november 2009 (UTC) I tried to tidy up the section a bit. We can still describe the "three way connection" (Smurf story, avatar, dww) made in the episode without getting into too much detail about the premise of avatar.
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Alastairward ( talk ) 22:01, 13 november 2009 (UTC) That's probably my bad, as I bunched all three footnotes at the end of the sentence, instead of maybe spreading them throughout so they would correspond to which source said what. I'm on the fence as to whether or not to include just this one connection that one source (that's not a blog or forum) has made. The plot resume essentially states what happens: episode shows Smurf story, wendy writes book about Smurf story, james Cameron uses book as inspiration for avatar. But then again, i guess it wouldn't hurt to include the. V./ avatar bit into "Cultural references" to better explain to readers who might not be familiar enough with The Smurfs and Dances with Wolves and avatar to draw their own conclusion.aqa
So, of now, i'm neutral as to whether or not it's included in the "Cultural references" section. Then again, there will surely more about this jab at avatar in the coming weeks. sosaysChappy (talk) 22:24, 13 november 2009 (UTC) There, provided refs. Google is your friend! nick catalano contrib talk 00:37, 14 november 2009 (UTC) Just thought I should run my two cents by before (and if) this becomes an member this article is about the south Park episode, and the talk page shouldn't become a forum for pointing out. Article should remain the same way, and should only be limited to how the episode compared the two.- sosaysChappy (talk) 01:37, 14 november 2009 (UTC) It isn't.
All that hype for a film when it's just Dances with Wolves but with cgi. Thank you south Park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ( talk ) 13:11, 12 november 2009 (UTC) It may be the case, but ign and the. Club didn't mention that specifically, that fellow Delgado only mentioned the link between the title of both episode and the latter of those two films. Alastairward ( talk ) 20:35, 13 november 2009 (UTC) The. Club did a little bit ( And it even got in a nice preemptive dig at avatar, which ive seen 30 minutes of and yeah, it pretty much is Dances With Smurfs.
But you're right, it's not really enough. I think the plot summary describing Wendy's book about the Smurf story being adapted for avatar is explanation enough. sosaysChappy (talk) 21:31, 13 november 2009 (UTC) Hang on, rereading the review I see that" only now. I could have sworn I had only seen the mention in the reader entries below the review. It could be inserted somewhere, i was concerned that maybe someone was trying to string together cites to make a confusion. My bad (and now I'm also worried because a friend is arranging a night out at a 3-d viewing for this film!).
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Something like this would have to be verified. sosaysChappy (talk) 01:40, 14 november 2009 (UTC) fallacies of leading the masses edit There are several uses of fallacies to get others to draw desired but wrong conclusions. The one i'm stuck on resume is: There are no Smurfs outside. If you see no Smurfs they must be all dead. If they are dead then Wendy must have killed them. That's several rolled into one? It's funny because i see these opinion commentators use these kind of logics. Alatari ( talk ) 06:48, 12 apple november 2009 (UTC) sources edit cirt ( talk ) 11:57, 12 november 2009 (UTC) Thanks, can't check right now myself but ign usually have a review out the same day or so as the avclub. Alastairward ( talk ) 12:41, 12 november 2009 (UTC) I'm happy after seeing this episode that avatar was put in its place.
To be honest, at first i health thought it was a rush Limbaugh parody, havn't seen the media outright boulderdash rush since the early 90's-2000's ( Racerboy ( talk ) 03:24, 12 november 2009 (UTC) we'll need to source this from tomorrow and later's reviews. Alatari ( talk ) 06:45, 12 november 2009 (UTC) i added what I had and did an initial copy edit. Ready to watch how it gets reshaped. Alatari ( talk ) 03:55, 12 november 2009 (UTC) Cultural references edit The smurf holocaust was done in a scene from Robot Chicken. Alatari ( talk ) 05:01, 12 november 2009 (UTC) as a fan of both shows, i remember that the first Smurf bit on Robot Chicken with mass deaths was the Snurfs getting killed by a flood (which was a spoof of the events of Hurricane. And there's one more Snurfs bit on Robot Chicken and it was a spoof of the movie se7en, and none of them was an Smurf holocaust bit.- boutitbenza 69 9 ( talk ) 22:32, 12 november 2009 (UTC) The big Lebowski edit i noticed that. Mctales ( talk ) 18:57, 13 november 2009 (UTC) Remember that Lebowski itself was a take on film noir by its writers, we might mistake an older film for tbl. Alastairward ( talk ) 20:37, 13 november 2009 (UTC) you could take one minute of any episode of sp and find it to be similar to some other minute of another show/movie, whether it's intentional or not. Not every case of mistaken identity in a reference to the same thing.
project's importance scale. Contents governor Schwarzenegger reference edit The taking of the first letters in the words on the blackboards, that add up to kill smurfs is a direct reference to an incident some weeks ago with governor Schwarzenegger where he sent a letter forming a different expression. ( ) i added this reference yesterday, but it was tagged as grafitti. Eric Cartman is a parody of Glenn Beck and his criticism of the Obama administration. Cartman's show has an intro and set similar to that of Glenn Becks. Before the morning announcements are read, the three-tones played on a xylophone are the same tones when morning announcements are read at Rydell High School in the film version of Grease. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ( talk ) 17:08, 17 november 2009 (UTC) Glenn Beck parody edit not like msnbc, cnn, hln, abc news, etc did it before anyway, how he says that "wendy won't come out and defend herself" is a tounge-in-cheek refference. How the crowd, i'm half-way through the episode as it's being aired, but how they are organizing, is a parody of the 9/12 project.
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